Patch to fix the patch to fix the patch to ....

pw · Post by pw » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:43 am

Yet another patch today ... servers coming down at 12pm GMT. Oh deep joy.

<rhetorical_question> Do SOE actually TEST their code ? </rhetorical_question>

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:56 am

Heres another one.. could you do better?

aChallenged1 · Post by **aChallenged1** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:58 am

I just love patch days and server update and maintenance days, they make the game so much better. I couldn't live without them.

shuttle · Post by **shuttle** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:56 am

no new eqgame.exe (yet)

pw · Post by pw » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:58 am

Patch doesn't seem to have a new eqgame.exe. MQ2 still works.

PS Lax - fair point ... I'll stfu.

KungFuHamster · Post by **KungFuHamster** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:08 am

Servers are back up (for now) (well, except for AB) as of 8am EST, and no new EXE.

Spoon · Post by **Spoon** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:42 pm

Lax wrote:Heres another one.. could you do better?

Damn fine point. Maintaining such a complex codebase as EQ with a few hundred thousand extra whiny users ain't a fun job. Code by nature contains bugs, bug free code >100k lines does not exist.

dont_know_at_all · Post by **dont_know_at_all** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:19 pm

Lax wrote:Heres another one.. could you do better?

Yes, and so could you. :-)

Frank25 · Post by **Frank25** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:13 pm

i'd be inclined to think you two actually could do better with a multimillion dollar budget and some flunkies

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MareDK · Post by **MareDK** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:37 am

would that be Sarnak Flunkies?

naah the game is great as is, just hard to start lowbies again if you don't want PL, just made a monk and got from lvl 1-50 in about a month, mostly solo, an I must say I enjoy the old zones much better then the new ones (maybe because you can solo in them?) camped my own fishbone earring and jboots and so on ooh well got a little off track here, but I love this game

MareDK

outlander · Post by **outlander** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:45 am

i'd be inclined to think you two actually could do better with a multimillion dollar budget and some flunkies )

Actually it's the flunkies that would introduce the bugs it's in their design and part of their job description.

Damn fine point. Maintaining such a complex codebase as EQ with a few hundred thousand extra whiny users ain't a fun job. Code by nature contains bugs, bug free code >100k lines does not exist.

Take two programming facts...
1) All programs contains at least 1 bug
2) All programs can be reduced by 1 line of code

Take the two facts above to thier conclusion and you come up with...
All programs can be reduced to one line of code that does not work...

Sparr · Post by **Sparr** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:26 pm

could I do better? yes. id publish my code to some sort of mythical "Test" server first, and then not go live with it when it didnt work.

Lax · Post by **Lax** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:40 pm

That's a good plan in theory, but what if it works on your small test base on your mythical test server, but then problems are discovered when it is live?
You certainly cant have 250k players on the test server, and you can't keep changes on your test server for a year before they go live while people are whining left and right for updates and their class sucks and their new weapon sucks etc.

kawaru23 · Post by **kawaru23** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:06 pm

Oh, and let's not forget the pressure from management to get it in place. There are very, very few projects where the acceptable level of error is zero.

Patch to fix the patch to fix the patch to ....

Patch to fix the patch to fix the patch to ....

Woot - no new eqgame.exe