How to use macs

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helstar
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How to use macs

Post by helstar » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:00 pm

First, i know im a new user here. But i have the biggest grip of them all.

Out of most all of the macs that get posted here have now instructions on how to set them up, the commands or guides on how to alter. u guys write them for the purpose of the end usere being as smart as u in the programing aspect. well were not.

I come from the xylobot side of the macros and at least there when we post a script we give instructions on how to use it. the main mac im peed off at is the GENBOT. Yes it gives u all the files need. then down in the forum it gives a 2 or 3 sentence on what to do next. i yet have found anything else. Im not dum and i have been reading everypost in here from the day i started here. (alot of readding)
I just wish u could put in the mac commonds, things to alter. and use i see that u do.

But hell i have to read i 400 line script to get done to the bottom and dont see anyting , or maybe im missing something. Every script i get i read it just to figure out the script what it does, how it works.

Im sorry that i came inhere and started a rave.

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Post by inorpo » Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:34 pm

For genbot /tell toon cmds help

That should get you started.

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genbot help

Post by helstar » Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:09 pm

Ok ill ask for help, this is my setup

first i want to run a 2box and or a 3 box, im useing, pally,ranger,druid,enchanter,

as with xylobot u only need the mac on the boxes u want to control. so im confused about the master, slave1, slave2 that has been posted.

so i first did the druid, being one of the boxes. mac genbot <slave1 toonname>
and i got the ini file. i went in and edited what i use just for that box.
so then i reloaded the toon slave1 and i get :

Cleared the following: timers var arrays
mq advpath. initialized To that effect so i think its running with out errors.

next i load my pally or ranger to do the controlling. now im in understanding that i just have to send it tells, or use a chat channels. well i sent :

/tell toonname cmds== i get in the window of the box mac toon, talking to yourself again?

so now im really confused.

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Post by JimJohnson » Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:39 pm

http://macroquest2.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 66&start=0

read those 18 pages and it explains how to use genbot if you still hae questions check out the other versoin of Genbot its on first page about halfway down.

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genbot help

Post by helstar » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:21 pm

Well read 18 pages waisted 1hr of my time and did not fix my problem.

Mybe im going all about this wrong. first i see ALOT of peeps asking for a setup with steps how useing the mac and not one of u all did this, that really looks bad on u all for not wanting to help any one with that. With all that said i will give u my position and maybe with the answeres i get will help me and others like me.

I want to use 3 DIFFERENT PCS WITH THREE DIFFERENT ACCONTS(TOONS)
now to inform u i have : Druid,Pally,Enchanter
pally will be MASTER.
druid will be slave.
enchanter will be slave.

Now from all the reading i have done i cant get anything to work. i do have mq2 working fine and i have the lates genbot files. Went to the last post of genbot and got them.

Now i want to controll the druid and the enchanter from the pally.

Could someone NOT give me more links to read(i dont think there is anyting left to read) Pleas give us (me and the rest of the ones asking help) a step by step on just getting the macro to work.


these are my steps i have done.

1. for what i can see from the forums i want to run the master and make and ini.

MASTER=PALADIN
/macro genbot <master,pallyname>

When i do that i get:
Cleared the following: Timers Vars Arrays
[MQ2] Advpath.inc by ml2517 -- Initialized

/endmacro

To me this should mean everything checked out fine.

then i go to the ini filename it just made and put in my info for the toon.
and i do the same for the rest of the toons, druid, enchanter.


After doing all this i start the druid slave 1;

/macro genbot druidname
and i again get the
Cleared the following: Timers Vars Arrays
[MQ2] Advpath.inc by ml2517 -- Initialized


so now from this i should load my pally and beable to send it commands.

But guess what IT DOES NOTHING

i see the tell that i sent from the pally and before i changed the druids ini file on the report chat=1 too report chat=0 i got

Talking to my self again;

I did learn that how to solve that problem from this forum. but cant do nothing else. All my GENBOT versons 9.0b


Please all im asking is for a little guideance. I dont want u to do it all and thats why i have already tried to give back to the communty already with a fish-forage mac and and a few others. I like the idea of MQ2 better than Xylobot . But we have a mac that does the same thing but much more setup then here for what i can see.

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Post by louseman » Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:28 pm

On the druid, /macro genbot Paladinname
On the enc, /macro genbot Paladinname

On the paladin/master, you don't start a macro; you simply send tells to the slaves.

"/tell druidname cmds" will get you started with the commands. There are tons of commands but most of them are very self-explanatory. A few in the personal.inc are useless since they're made for the author's char (i.e. I think there's a "bp" command that tries to click a rogue velious bp. Obviously that won't do shit if you don't have that bp), but that's cause you're supposed to edit personal.inc to include whatever commands you want/need.

Also when you start the macro for the first time, an .ini file will be created. You'll want to open that ini file and edit in your spells and stuff.

Personally, I felt that genbot had sufficient documentation. Perhaps it was difficult for you, since you used a similar program with different syntax, but most people figured it out ok. Don't shit on macro authors; they put a lot of work into their macros and post them here so you can spend your time playing EQ instead of coding. I don't post any of the macros I write because I don't want people getting pissed off at me when they can't figure shit out.

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Re: genbot help

Post by JimJohnson » Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:33 am

helstar wrote:
Could someone NOT give me more links to read(i dont think there is anyting left to read) Pleas give us (me and the rest of the ones asking help) a step by step on just getting the macro to work.

If you read the thread it told you how to do it. crying because people wont hold your hand wont get you anything. skimming over the thread and reading it are 2 diffrent things.


Pally no macro runs

Druid do /macro genbot <MASTER NAME> yea that means your pally


THEN

/endmacro


camp out

go open the druid ini file set it up with spells you want to use

repeat for the other classes you need.


once you have ini set up relog from botcharaceter01 do /macro genbot <masters name> <second masters name> <third masters name> < etc..>

from master do /t botname sit , /t botmane stand this will check if its working correctly.




http://macroquest2.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... c&start=60


page 5 second post tells you how to use it.

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Post by jcooler » Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:36 am

hehe yea figureing this stuff out is hard

Thats 98% of the fun =p

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Post by Elric » Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:56 am

Shouldn't this have been in the Help forum, rather than the completed macros forum?
-Elric

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Post by seph_yaro » Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:11 am

You are in the wrong forum. Ask in the 'Macro Help' forum and you might actually get help. Then again if you cannot figure out where to ask for help, perhaps you aren't worthy of our help. Hnn.
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Post by Mckorr » Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:56 am

Let's put an end to this right now.

MacroQuest is an open-source development community. Unlike Xylobot, where you pay for the product, everything done here is done without recompense, without obligation, and out of an interest in sharing new information and new techniques.

No one here, dev, macro author, or casual user, is under any obligation to comment anything. There are no rules requiring instruction manuals. Be thankful when they do.

We don't use a level system like the hacking boards. We use certain built in hurdles.

First hurdle, you must be able to compile MQ yourself. Instructions have been provided; hell, instructions on how to do it for free have even been provided.

Second hurdle, you have to have at least a basic understanding of the macro syntax, gained by reading the Help files that Wassup so graciously tries to keep up to date, and by reading and then writing SIMPLE macros.

GenBot is NOT a simple macro. It's by far the most complicated and ambitious script ever written. It's a maginificent piece of work and the writer deserve a tremendous amount of respect, not only for writing it but for sharing it with the rest of us.

We are not here to support script-kiddies. MQ is not, nor was ever designed to be, a cut-and-paste operation. Many people here have worked for YEARS to gain their understanding and ability.

If you are not reading every post, not using the Search feature, or are expecting to have everything handed to you ready made with complete instructions, you need to look somewhere else. If you have SPECIFIC questions regarding a function, a command, or a script that you can not solve, on your own using the methods above, ask it. Nicely, and with respect for the hard work done to provide these tools.

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thanks

Post by helstar » Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:53 pm

First i thought i did post in the right forum.
second i do thank the authors for there work. and yes the genbot is one of the hardest ones i have seen. why do u think i got so frustrated with not finding what i was looking for by useing the search button. There hasnt been a day that i havent used it. I wouldnt have come to Mq if i didnt think it was a better than xylobot. i like the set up. i did complie my own mq. with no help.

now for what i was asking on the genbot i believe i got what i was looking for. Im sorry but some of the answers that i found did not work. so i read and read and got frustrated and asked for a bit of help. I dont need you to hold my hand. and im not a script kiddie. i do have 2 years in programming. it just has been a while and not everything i have learned matches what is here in the forum.

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Post by Elric » Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:34 pm

/em pets Mckorr.

It's alright, Helstar. Mckorr had a long day yesterday, and that was just a way for him to release some steam.

We're all really rather nice here, and we all do try to help the folks who are on these boards. But there is a downside to that, we help so many, so many times, that we start to get frustrated ourselves at the post-count of the same answers. So we get annoyed, and say "Use the search function", because we know if you do, you'll find your answer. Even if it means drudging through ten pages of one particular post to find the fix you were asking about.

Keep in mind that all of us are here to help one another, but if we've helped fifteen others with the same problem, we get angry, and lose our sanity.

So don't hold Mckorr responsible for his rant.. Although it was well said, and well meant, it came off in the wrong manner.



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However.
Could someone NOT give me more links to read(i dont think there is anyting left to read) Pleas give us (me and the rest of the ones asking help) a step by step on just getting the macro to work.
That is enough to piss anyone off, including myself. I held back a nice rant, almost concurrent with Mckorr's on that one.

Here's some personal advice. If the fix has been posted more than once, you're going to have folks angry with you. If you don't read the instructions, you're going to have folks angry with you. If you skim over the twenty pages in the thread that the code has been posted in, and then bitch about the fact that you can't find the answer, you're going to have folks REALLY angry with you.

This is the last time I'll tell anyone to use the search function, because from now on I'm flaming each and every last one, until they actually DO RTFM and DO use Search/Read the entire posting.

Bloody hell. Now look what you made me do.
-Elric