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The omnipotent MQ

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:53 am
by Snapple_is_Good
Someone mentioned they were developing a hp plugin and that gave me some ideas for other plugins.

Steel Warriors has lists of some of the boss mitigation and avoidance numbers. Displaying hp is nice but the potential for more along those lines is huge.
It would take a lot of effort and input don't get me wrong... but I could see being able to type something like /targetinfo and see the mobs level, hp, dps, regen, mitigation, avoidance, special attacks, special defenses, immunities, riposte rates, loot drops. Would be a several month project but much of the information could be gotten from parsers or allakhazam then distro'd as a one time download to users once the info is compiled.

It would even be possible to use the merchant value for all the vendor items (such as diamonds or other merchant fodder) to compute an average plat drop per mob and display that also. Let's say after a few hours of parsing it's determined that a seafury cyclops drops a ruby 5% of the time, a bracelet 5% of the time, an average of 6pp, etc etc. a plugin could track all the loot drops then compute the average value. You could click a mob and see all the above mentioned info as well as "This mob drops an average of 9.64pp per kill" It wouldn't need to spell it out like that...just a number would be enough. No more guessing what the best mobs are to hunt if you wanna make plat...it could be displayed and compared in a perfect format. The usage and potential of that is just staggering. I know about 400,000 EQ players would donate for something that good:)

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:59 am
by Onezero
1st paragraph is somewhat of a good idea. As for the second...

So basically, you are asking for someone to put in the time to write a very complex plugin, then you want massive amounts of people to use it to collect data, and then spend the time sorting it and turning it into something useful, all so that you can go out and farm mobs for plat?

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:43 pm
by doanchano
Don't be so hard on the guy. Al ot of good ideas come from those with poor intentions.

Besides he hasn't had a Snapple since yesterday and is not thinking that clearly/

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:56 pm
by Snapple_is_Good
If that's what you think the motivation is then feel free to write the plugin and leave out the loot tables ;p

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:57 pm
by eqjoe
OMG... lets take all advantages away from the experienced player and make the game trivial to any noob retard that can load up MQ2.

THAT sounds like a plan. Go and code it Snapple.


-j

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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:13 pm
by Snapple_is_Good
Yea you're right. We need to stop displaying mob level since that gives those noobs an advantage. Oh and we shouldn't be able to target from more than a few feet away since that makes it to easy on those noobs too and doesn't really help the experienced player. All those dang macros and scripts really don't help anyone but the n00b either.

You want things easier but not to easy. You want helpful software but not to helpful. If that's how you feel then whenever the plugin is designed you're free to not use it ;p

I thought the whole point was to make it more enjoyable for everyone that makes the effort to keep mq working whether it be via plugin writing or donations, or finding structures.

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:34 pm
by eqjoe
Trivialize the entire game. Go for it.

-j

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:48 pm
by Lax
I would say dont bother wasting the kind of effort you're talking about on EQ. EQ is dying, this is why they flew the top guilds out to ask what they want.

Exhibit A:
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EQ subscriptions have been declining for a year. They're likely to decline much more later this year when EQ2 and WoW come out. If you're planning a big project my suggestion is to make it apply equally or adaptable to EQ2 (or WoW).

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:07 pm
by mcdebug
god damnit you mean sony has a 5.4 million dollar a month budget and i cant my fucking petition answered?

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:19 pm
by Onezero
That doesn't include sales from the EQ online store or any boxed/electronic expansion purchases either.

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:30 pm
by eqjoe
Some servers are experiancing mass exodus. Its only a matter of time before those game cards expire and players cancel that credit card auto debit because they no longer are playing. My server population is way, way down. Over half my guild has quit or retired.

-j

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:07 pm
by Narces
Hopefully SOE will allow for free server xfers in the near future. That would allow a lot of guilds to merge and survive a little bit longer. Yeah, the person that suggested the idea doesn't know all that would be involved in writing something of that nature.. can't be too hard on them thou. Would be nice, yeah, but won't happen