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Instructions?
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 6:16 am
by wodandieus
I'm new to the forum and MacroQuest, I was wondering if there is a really good newbie FAQ or some sort of "MacroQuest for Dummies" text file somewhere. I'd love to make macros for Alchemy skills and such but am rather lost at this point.
Thanks
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:33 am
by azwildfire
if you download the newest version it has a HTML based tutorial. actually decent one :)
and of course post questions here and thouse of us that pretend to know what we are doing will help until the big dawg on vacation from the web comes back from RL to help
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:11 pm
by wodandieus
Apparently "dummies" wasnt clear, I read the Readme.html and was completely lost, there is nothing there that explains how to use this at all, is this what you meant when you said there was a tutorial? Or is there another html in a different version. I downloaded MQ-20020726
I'm assuming then that there is not a basic instruction manual?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:46 pm
by rizwank
That readme.html is my baby! You don't like it! I HATE YOU! ... just kidding.
azwildfire thanks for the compliment.
What wasn't clear in it... I can add stuff if requested to it..
The html manual has a list of commands and then a sample macro at the bottom with a walk through from step to step... looking at other macros on these forums will help too, but they arent commented out line by line like the one in the html file is..
What issues were you having?
-rizwank
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:49 am
by wodandieus
Oh, like where do you put these, how do you make it work.
I have no clue what even one of these things mean or do, much less how to use them. There are no instructions whatsoever, just a list of commands, nothing saying how to use them, combine them. What will work with what or why. What order they need to be in and why. Even the "tutorial" is just an example of a macro.
Much less how to make them work, what do you do while in the game to make them work, where do the files need to be place to make them work. How do you make one at all! I'm guessing from what I've seen here that you save it in a text file and change the .txt to a .mac?
I'm guessing that most of the people that have written the macros here in the group have some experience writing code in one form or another. Someone needs to post real instructions for those of us who just want to enhance their game without learning basic programming skills. I'm also guessing that hundreds if not thousands have looked at this and given up rather then trying to do what I'm doing now.
It's been made perfectly clear in the newsgroups that asking for a specific macro is a no-no. Make your own and if you have trouble they will help you, well as it stands that eliminates a large number of people from ever being able to use the program.
To wodandieus
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 3:10 am
by ShangoDe
Look Chuck,
It's like this, if you want point and click brain dead spoon fed dog food every nite for the rest of your life I would prolly suggest a different avenue for ya, if one exists good luck finding it. I speak for myself and I am enjoying learning to make my own features instead of taking the McProgramed crap that gets handed to me out there. This is where you choose the features, you choose the path, these aren't cheats or lies or easy ways to get anything in the game. You want it, you earn it either by multiple clicks or by learning to implement yer dream thru this tool. Sky's the limit bub, s'up to you to get the plane! 8)
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 3:27 am
by rizwank
Ah.... I see... you want to enhance your game, but you arent interested in Macroing..
Then look at the information for the various commands.
/who /face /whotarget /item are all useful commands for in game usage... you have to look at the syntax though.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:27 am
by wodandieus
I am very interested in macroing, I just have no clue as to how. There are no instructions whatsoever that explain how to use this program.
Please actually read the posts I put up instead of skipping over them lightly and you will see that I asked for instructions on how to make the macros work.
Even the commands you just mentioned do nothing whatsoever that they didnt do before. And what is syntax?
and ShangoDe, could you translate that into english?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 7:34 am
by nikeman
do what all good coders do steal from 1 marco and add it to urs
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 7:43 am
by wodandieus
So I have to learn coding in order to make this work? Add it to my what?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:50 am
by lupinus
About two weeks ago I had no clue what to do with any of this stuff but now I can write some basic macros. I played with the commands in game to see if they did anything. Than I started to write simple do ability macros to get up those boring click only skills. I moved up to examing others macro to see how they were put together (helps if you understand the class some of these are ment for. "bard druid etc"). I now have raised trade skills up, used and adjusted others macros, and am still learning form the guys and gals in this forum. Start simple, this is the best way I found to understand the growing process and you dont even realize how much you are learning.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:31 pm
by gingertips
Jeez,
Whaddya want for free?! Do what we all did - run the program like we all did using some of the default mac files. then think about what u would like to macro and write your own using bits of code already posted here...
it takes a bit of time, but it pays dividends - u just have to be prepared to put in a bit of effort!!
and if u have problems with a macro u created, post it here - there are plenty of people who will help get it working providin u demonstrate u have made the effort...

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 11:20 pm
by wodandieus
Maybe the people who have answered here in this thread just don't realize that they are explaining things that only someone already experienced with coding will understand. Telling me to copy someone elses code does no good whatsoever if I dont even have the slightest idea how to do that.
How do you make one at all! I'm guessing from what I've seen here that you save it in a text file and change the .txt to a .mac?
Will someone at least answer that?
I dont even know how to start the macros that are included with the program while I'm in the game. And there is nothing in any of the documentation that explains any of this.
The only documentation explains what each command does but nothing on how to run the program while your in the game, nothing on how to make a macro, nothing on where to put these macros.
Maybe someday someone will actually bother to write a real tutorial instead of simply an advanced macro command database. Don't get me wrong, a database like this is not only helpful but neccesary, it just does not help people like me who have no idea how to write code.
Also, I apologize as I believe this is really the wrong forum, this should have went into the help forum instead of the general.
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 12:49 am
by Valerian
Okay, I'll try to help... yes, to make a macro file, you make a text file and save it as .mac or rename it to .mac. It needs to be in the Macros folder in your MacroQuest program folder. Feel free to open any of those .mac files in there in Notepad (or something similar) and try to figure out how they work...
To start a macro in game, simply type /macro <macroname> (without the brackets of course).
To list all macro files currently in your macro folder, in game, type /listmacros.
Anything else you'd like explained in plain english? BTW, the /macro and /listmacros commands are in the readme 'tutorial', and if you'd read through it instead of skimming through the commands, you probably would have seen them

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:40 am
by wodandieus
Thank you Valerian, I had seen the /macro and /listmacros but they didn't do anything. Now I'm assuming it's because MQ isn't working with the new UI.
I tried the updated EQ.INI file listed in the latest patch thread but still not running the proggie, though now when I open EQ itself MQ locks up, I can play EQ fine but when I log off there is an error message and I have to re-boot the puter to get it to stop, con/alt/del doesnt show it and even process viewer 2000 can't kill it (though it does show it.).
One question, does the new EQ.INI go into the MacroQuest file or do I actually replace the .ini in the everquest folder?