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Patch to fix the patch to fix the patch to ....
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:43 am
by pw
Yet another patch today ... servers coming down at 12pm GMT. Oh deep joy.
<rhetorical_question> Do SOE actually TEST their code ? </rhetorical_question>
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:56 am
by Lax
Heres another one.. could you do better?
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:58 am
by aChallenged1
I just love patch days and server update and maintenance days, they make the game so much better. I couldn't live without them.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:56 am
by shuttle
no new eqgame.exe (yet)
Woot - no new eqgame.exe
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:58 am
by pw
Patch doesn't seem to have a new eqgame.exe. MQ2 still works.
PS Lax - fair point ... I'll stfu.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:08 am
by KungFuHamster
Servers are back up (for now) (well, except for AB) as of 8am EST, and no new EXE.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:42 pm
by Spoon
Lax wrote:Heres another one.. could you do better?
Damn fine point. Maintaining such a complex codebase as EQ with a few hundred thousand extra whiny users ain't a fun job. Code by nature contains bugs, bug free code >100k lines does not exist.
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:19 pm
by dont_know_at_all
Lax wrote:Heres another one.. could you do better?
Yes, and so could you. :-)
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:13 pm
by Frank25
i'd be inclined to think you two actually could do better with a multimillion dollar budget and some flunkies
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:37 am
by MareDK
would that be Sarnak Flunkies?
naah the game is great as is, just hard to start lowbies again if you don't want PL, just made a monk and got from lvl 1-50 in about a month, mostly solo, an I must say I enjoy the old zones much better then the new ones (maybe because you can solo in them?) camped my own fishbone earring and jboots and so on ooh well got a little off track here, but I love this game
MareDK
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:45 am
by outlander
i'd be inclined to think you two actually could do better with a multimillion dollar budget and some flunkies )
Actually it's the flunkies that would introduce the bugs it's in their design and part of their job description.
Damn fine point. Maintaining such a complex codebase as EQ with a few hundred thousand extra whiny users ain't a fun job. Code by nature contains bugs, bug free code >100k lines does not exist.
Take two programming facts...
1) All programs contains at least 1 bug
2) All programs can be reduced by 1 line of code
Take the two facts above to thier conclusion and you come up with...
All programs can be reduced to one line of code that does not work...
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:26 pm
by Sparr
could I do better? yes. id publish my code to some sort of mythical "Test" server first, and then not go live with it when it didnt work.
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:40 pm
by Lax
That's a good plan in theory, but what if it works on your small test base on your mythical test server, but then problems are discovered when it is live?
You certainly cant have 250k players on the test server, and you can't keep changes on your test server for a year before they go live while people are whining left and right for updates and their class sucks and their new weapon sucks etc.
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:06 pm
by kawaru23
Oh, and let's not forget the pressure from management to get it in place. There are very, very few projects where the acceptable level of error is zero.