Can a GM see what you type? ie /endmacro or /macro bear.mac

Dirtface · Post by **Dirtface** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 5:20 am

No. Gms cant grab your output file. Only way for them to see the last ten lines of your text is to /report. Guides...they cant see shit. ever.

By the way...good to hear that Innoruuk is still kicking with the highest number of CS coverage. I wonder if I ever gave you a rez.

so echoing and etc. is safe.

Domosan · Post by **Domosan** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 7:11 am

You are wrong. GMs can grab the text in your chat box just as if you did a /report at any point in time that they want. It has been done, I have seen it done, it will continue to be done.

Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean they WILL do it. They prefer for people to police themselves which is why they ask you to do a /report rather than just grabbing it themselves. It all stems back to the law suit regarding scanning the client PC's memory.

Domosan

Oid · Post by **Oid** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 12:27 pm

That is the rumor. Easily handled by using /mqlog for output from the macro, and using /filter to kill anything mq might spit out

Dirtface · Post by **Dirtface** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 1:39 pm

Well, I suggest everyone take Domo's word over mine. But I wouldnt be surprised if grabbing a players current chatbox is a tedious process for the GMs.

Nerfy · Post by **Nerfy** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 2:13 pm

This is easy to settle, someone just needs to run a macro and post the results. Here, I'll write the macro:

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sub Main
   /echo Hey GM!
   /echo Can you read this?
   /echo Cause if you can,
   /echo I'm screwed!
   /delay 1s
   /report
/return

There ya go. Oh, and if you're a lurker looking for a pp mac, that one above is just for you.

Spencerx2k · Post by **Spencerx2k** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 8:51 pm

Hehe that was like a haiku

Valerian · Post by **Valerian** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:11 pm

Spencerx2k wrote:Hehe that was like a haiku

almost... think this'd make it a bit better though:

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sub Main 
   /echo Hey stupid GM! 
   /echo If you can read this, I'm screwed!
   /echo So can you read this? 
   /delay 1s 
   /report 
/return

there. Traditional 5-7-5 haiku.

Oid · Post by **Oid** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:40 pm

UserZero · Post by **UserZero** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 4:28 pm

Actually, they can use the GM command: /listen playername to view your chat window on every channel. Of course you have to attract their attention first...

Nerfy · Post by **Nerfy** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 4:37 pm

Fundamental question here is about how MQ interacts with the client. I would think that MQ simply calls some function in the EQ client that writes to the chat window. Sometimes this function is called due to a serverside event (A_Bug_01 hits YOU...) other times a client side event kicks it off (/loc).

Problem is that if that chat window is not just GUI, but a buffer that the server can get to. In this case it's a client side only variable that someone with the right command could access. This is where /echo is a bad, bad thing.

A safer way to test this would be to /petition after a series of /loc's. If the responding GM comes back and discusses the text above the /locs then we know that s/he is recieving a server side buffer. If s/he comments that they can't do a thing with your position - then we know that we should be (more) careful with our echo commands.

Anyone willing to try this? :)

zedisdeadbaby · Post by **zedisdeadbaby** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:57 am

This sounds more like a serverside thing though.

To grab your textbox on your PC would require a special message be sent to the client, to which the client would respond.

UserZero wrote:Actually, they can use the GM command: /listen playername to view your chat window on every channel. Of course you have to attract their attention first...